DeRosa to the Cardinals

That was not a standard day off for Mark DeRosa, after all.

DeRosa, a subject of trade rumors almost from the time he first slipped on an Indians uniform, is on the block no more. The Indians have traded the versatile veteran to the Cardinals for right-hander Chris Perez and a player to be named later.

GM Mark Shapiro said the PTBN component is an important one, akin to the Coco Crisp and Michael Brantley acquisitions in the past.

More info to come on

UPDATE: Just to clear up any confusion out there, Asdrubal Cabrera will be activated tomorrow, but the Indians are not calling up Matt LaPorta immediately.

As for Perez, he’ll likely get here tomorrow and be ready to pitch Monday.


Wow……..You were right LACF. I hate to see DeRosa go, to be honest. I think it makes good sense though.

Good moves to prepare for next year, I think. If we can get another reliever somewhere by cobbling together a group trade, that would help.
Also just heard LaPorta won’t be coming up after all — the roster spot will go to Cabrera.

Am I the only one thinking this “player to be named” better be something big. Cause Derosa for Perez just aint making much sense to me right now.

Ankiel maybe?

This has pushed me over the edge. To be quite honest, the only PTBNL that I would be satisfied with at this point is Albert Pujols and I would have to say that he is not on the list of possibilities. Chris Perez is a fine young pitching prospect, but we have to remember that we gave up three similar prospects to get DeRosa and now ultimately net a loss. The trade is simply too quick of a reaction. Living in Chicago, I have seen the fervor with which the entire Cubs community has sought the opportunity to get DeRosa back. Unlike in Cleveland (unfortunately), management in Chicago tends to mirror the overall sentiment of the fanbase with their midseason moves and I would be confident in saying that a trade could have been worked out. In such a trade, we would have had complete leverage, able to ask of the Cubs all we gave them before and thensome (they need DeRosa badly=leverage). Use the Cardinal offer as a blackmailing tool and we could have acutally gotten a significant gain out of this whole deal, one that could potentially get us closer to a title next season. But, once again the management in Cleveland has made a rash and completely erractic move with the ballclub, one that has unfortunatlely had so much talent and potential gone to waste.

“Chris Perez is a fine young pitching prospect, but we have to remember that we gave up three similar prospects to get DeRosa and now ultimately net a loss.”

Chris Perez is absolutely not a similar prospect to Jeff Stevens, Chris Archer or John Gaub.

I really doubt the PTBNL is on the major league roster right now. I would expect it to be another pitcher.
The Cardinals needed DeRosa just as desperately as Chicago did, the main difference is that the Cubs FO was going to have to admit to having made a mistake to get DeRosa back and I truly doubt that any FO in baseball would do that.
For what it’s worth, Perez was the 3rd ranked prospect in the St. Louis organization according to Baseball America. That’s not a bad start, since we need to start stockpiling pitchers for next year.

You can’t argue against this trade. The biggest detriment to the Indians’ success has been a lack of hard throwing bullpen guys, the reason I didn’t like the Derosa trade in the first place. So I would also say the trade to get Derosa was a terrible trade, which will only be upgraded to “bad” should Perez contribute to potential Indians success next year. If John Gaub and Jeff Stevens were still in the Indians’ minor leagues, they’d be putting up the best numbers of their relief pitching prospects by far, Stevens 2.52 ERA with 36 SOs in 35 innings, Gaub, 2.83 ERA with 40 SOs in 28 innings

I really can’t argue with this trade. The Cards has one of the best bullpens in the majors and Perez was a part of that all year. He’s got a year and a half of MLB experience and we need a hard throwers in the back of the pen. Combined with Betancourt, (hopefully White–assuming we get him signed), Sipp, and Wood, we will have a good bullpen full of high K guys. Something we haven’t had in a long time. So there is hope for next year. I’m personally sick of hope for next year, but its better than nothing at this point! Let’s not forget Shapiro’s astute ability to reim in great players in PTBNL agreements (ie-AstroCab).

Fact of the matter is, the Mets had nothing of interest in their system and Atlanta wasn’t budging with their pitching depth. We saw what the BrewCrew had and took what we wanted their already…so we weren’t trading him there either. The Cubbies couldn’t admit they messed up in trading him, so they didn’t want him back. So the Cards made the most sense. We’re getting a good return right now–we saved $3mil to hopefully use to resign C Lee, we got a high upside bullpen guy (which is what we needed), and we could turn this into a great deal with the PTBNL….so let’s be happy for Dero–a great guy, a great ball player who now has a chance to win a WS with the Cards.

Chris Perez is a much better prospect than any of the three guys we gave up to get DeRosa.

When Perez hits the active roster, I suspect that we will be saying “sayanora” to Tomo Ohka as, even if Laffey is not ready after today’s rehab start, the Tribe won’t need a fifth starter until July 11 due to off days.

I agree with wctribe on DeRosa’s leverage not being fully utilized by trading Mark right now. I felt like the NYM would have eagerly joined the discussion for his services come mid-July. I get the sense that the PTBNL will be another Shapiro special. One player if you’re in the post season, another if you’re not. Big mistake IMO if that is the case. But it’s done so lets move on.

And move on drastically is what I want to see happen. Chris Perez should replace Rafael Perez on the 25-man roster and Mark DeRosa on the FMR (obviously). Option down Chris Gimenez and call up Jordan Brown. According to the Indians website we list 42 guys on the FMR with Westbrook, Reyes and Scott Lewis on the 60 day DL (hence not on the FMR). That leaves us with one open roster spot for Brown, and that includes the Chris Perez transaction.

Now it gets interesting. Trade Jhonny Peralta. He no longer has a future here, carries a friendly contract and all I want is Wes Hodges or Lonnie Chisenhall in the distant future. Peralta needs a new home and after you deal JP, call up Andy Marte. That’s right. Let Marte play 3B every day the rest of the year. Promote Hector Rondon to Columbus, get his time in and then he’s a September callup if all goes injury-free thus preparing him for 2010 in Cleveland.

Finally, and this move will take some maneuvering from a 25-man roster, find a way to bring up Matt Laporta, stick him in LF with an occasional start at 1B but get him in the lineup daily! Ben Francisco will therefore become what he is, a fine 4th OF rather than a subpar starter. The LaPorta move comes with some consequences. Decisions will have to be made about Barfield and Francisco, assuming that Carroll is not dealt which is still a strong possibility IMO.

As a Cubs fan I was excited to see Derosa go to my favorite team! Now I get to see him go to a team I despise! I say trade Victor to the Cubs, they need of a C. Send C Lee down to a minor league club and use him as a closer. I don’t want to waste his arm away, we’ll need him again in 2010 for a stretch run. Honestly, I’ve lost faith in the management and front office. This team has had a bad run of injuries but no one has stepped up to the next level, bench players still look like minor leaguers. Perez looked awful tonight, shocker! Trading Derosa now was a huge mistake! His services would have commanded a much better deal come the trade deadline. Trade the whole front office for a couple of bats and get some balls for a manager, baseballs that is…it will be a while before I spend any of my hard earned money in my beloved JACOBS Field!!!

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